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    « on: November 24, 2010, 06:22:21 PM »

    OK so heres the dealio, im building a Racebase to go with my G27. I have a budget of <$300 for a display. My options are:

    * Use my existing 24" Samsung monitor (it goes just beyond 1080p)
    * Get a huge-ass 48-60" RPTV off craiglist, however most are 1080i at this price bracket (has anyone tried any PC sims at 1080i?
    * Get something in the region of 36-42" LCD at 1080p
    * Projector, but most likely the highest res I can get for this price will be 1280x960 or 720p

    For the purposes of this forget about the costs of lamps and color wheels....What will give the best balance of immersion and detail do you think? Viewing distance would be typical for a cockpit, I guess I could put an LCD on top of it just in front of the steering wheel whereas an RPTV or projector might have to start at the foot of the cockpit.

    I race shifter karts in real life, so the idea of a bigger screen appeals to me so that I actually have to track what I'm doing with my eyes and head, like in real life.

    Thoughts?
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    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 06:53:17 PM »

    Given the options I'd use the 24" mounted on a monitor stand just behind the wheel platform.  This would put you rather close to the monitor and feel rather immersion due to the close proximity, and a significant portion of your actual field of view would be filled by the display.  The other options cost you money, and their larger but your viewing distance is further from the display, and the resolution is lower.

    Try this calculator to get some idea of what I mean.  http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

    24" display at 2 feet viewing distance is a wider viewing angle than a 42" at 4 feet.

    Also, you didn't happen to say what your video card and processor is which would influence your FPS.

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    « Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 07:09:06 PM »

    Also, you didn't happen to say what your video card and processor is which would influence your FPS.

    Thanks for chiming in Jeffrey...PC spec will be whatever I need I guess. I'm getting something used thats Q6600 based with graphics to match. Right now the computer is a P4 3.0@ 3.6 with 2GB of RAM and a 6800GT LOL so it isnt up to much.

    I think you are right though, start off with the 24" since I already have it and work from there. I have an XGA projector downstairs that I can compare it to...Its my main "computer" screen now but ill just do "work" stuff over RDP with the laptop.
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    « Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 08:07:36 PM »

     Personally. I have decided that the best would be about 30" or maybe slightly bigger. Mainly as I'd think these huge screens would make it seem you're driving a "GIANT CAR!!!" and myself I find the 24" too small and my 28" is much much better but still find myself thinking a weeee bit bigger would be perfect. Not too much more, just enough so my cockpit view in perspective hasn't got me driving a car with what appears to be a 6" steering wheel!! So, thinking it over, I figured a 30" or slightly bigger would seem perfect for immersion.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 05:40:00 PM »

    Having tried everything from a 17"CRT in the early days to 30" 720 to a 100" projector to 52" 1080i, I have to go with my triple head to go with 3 cheap 23" monitors.  I would say if you want immersion, the triple head is great.  I did mine as a slow process over time.  Which is highly unlike me, usually jump in with both feet...  I bought a screen at Best Buy for about $200.00, bought a second to extend my desktop, then a third and finally bit the bullett on the triple head to go.  I know you can get better detail with multiple video cards, but my Matrox does fine on a lil ATI Radeon 4550 vid card.  I have had a 9600GT on standby if ever needed, but currently have my Matrox running it's 3 screens with a 4th as an extended desktop above the three running my Slingbox or netflix or whatever.

    I recommend going slowly over time, using what you have currently and seeing what technology is available in the near future.  That is the great thing about PC gaming over console gaming.  You can adapt as technology becomes available. 
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    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2010, 02:19:01 AM »

    Funny you should say that supermodfan, because here's what's happened.... I bought a computer for the cause. Q6600\4GB\500GB\8800GT. P35 chipset so I should be able to get it to 3Ghz hopefully. It came with another 24" monitor for $385 all-in, so I am leaning towards saying "what the heck, ill just go get a third 24" screen".

    Hmmmmm.
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    « Reply #6 on: December 01, 2010, 03:08:10 AM »

    Go for it! 3 x 24inch is sublime!
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    « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2010, 03:09:48 AM »

    3 monitors is definitely immersive.  I driven plenty of 40 inch and 50 inch simulators, but in Florida last month with 3 crappy 19" 4:3 monitors mounted within 2 feet of my eye, that was total immersion.  http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/index.php?topic=1604.msg19685#msg19685

    So I came home and made it my mission to set my cockpit up with triple monitors.  2 of my 3 monitors purchased on ebay arrived today, 3rd should be in later in the week, and I ordered a Sapphire 5870 yesterday.  I had to settle on 19" 16:10 displays, I just don't have the room for larger displays.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 01, 2010, 03:27:01 AM »

    Triplehead2go looks nice, but at 300ish for that + a 300 dollar graphics card + at least 150 for the screen I think it might have to wait. Gotta get the racebase built anyway and go from there.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 01, 2010, 04:59:53 AM »

    Don't need a TripleHead2Go with a Eyefinity capable card.

    I bought the Sapphire 5870 for $214 after rebate, $84/monitor for Samsung 906BW 19" displays via eBay, and a Sapphire Active DP to HDMI adaptor for @$27.

    But you right you need to start building.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 01, 2010, 03:19:22 PM »

    Eyefinity eh? Looks like the 8800GT is going on eBay or Craigslist then :D

    Turns out a friend has some 19" non-widescreen monitors that I can prettymuch have for free. I could do a 1x24 and 2x19 setup I guess. Maybe I can use the other 24 as a rearview mirror lol.
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    « Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 12:20:26 PM »

    Eyefinity eh? Looks like the 8800GT is going on eBay or Craigslist then :D

    Turns out a friend has some 19" non-widescreen monitors that I can prettymuch have for free. I could do a 1x24 and 2x19 setup I guess. Maybe I can use the other 24 as a rearview mirror lol.

    One thing to note with Eyefinity is that the displays all need to be running the same resolution, or it sets all three to match the lowest. So if you are using different size monitors they are likely to have different native resolutions and it might not look so good:think:
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